On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 17:24 -0600, Guy Fraser wrote: > I have only worked with a few, but non had an option to disable > RAID. In the manual they had ways to use drives as though they > weren't using RAID. Guess your few are the exception. I've worked with 30 or so different boards from just about all board makers (public and non-public) and most have the RAID vs NORAID option. > Example. > Setup one logical volume using the full size of only one drive. > > Is that what you, you mean? No, as it is still loading a RAID bios rather than just the disk itself. > That is how ASUS boards with Promise > controllers work. ASUS boards and Promise controllers are both > very much mainstream. And Promise has been the source of a lot of problems with Linux. Bad juju. Of course, our Asus Promise boards have the ability to not be in RAID, maybe we're just lucky? > > > > > And older machines never had SATA. > > > > > > Make up your frickin minds. > > > > By SATA addon cards I'm talking about SATA PCI cards, not a chip on > the > > motherboard. > > I know, why would you consider there use to be non standard. > > I know lots of people have more than two drives, and the SATA on > most motherboards only support two drives. Know lots of people != mainstream. Mainstream is the majority of users who have maybe a single drive. Mainstream are people who aren't ripping apart their system at random to add drives and such in random configurations. Mainstream works. > > > > > > > Maybe the reason the developers can't find any problems is > > > > > they are not adding any additional controller cards. > > > > > > > > That is quite possible. You are correct in that most SATA cards > > > lack > > > > the ability to disable loading a BIOS. SATA cards loading a > BIOS > > > > overrides at times what is set in the motherboard BIOS for boot > > > order. > > > > > > I would have never guessed. > > > > > > What do you think people have been complaining about? > > > > Again, I'm speaking of SATA PCI cards, not the onboard SATA chips of > > today's motherboards. SATA PCI cards for the most part have been > POS > > things that only cause problems, regardless of boot loaders. > > Maybe in your universe, we have been using them in FreeBSD > servers for over a year and haven't had any problems. I have > been using mine with Fedora for over a year and the only > problems I've had were with GRUB. This conversation has been about Linux, not FreeBSD. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating