On Wed, 2005-13-04 at 09:18 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 09:00 -0600, Guy Fraser wrote:
> > Read the archives.
>
> Sorry, with the roughly 4 billion posts I'd rather not. But thanks for
> offering.
>
> > I tried every possible thing.
> >
> > Most new cards are completely auto detect, you can't change
> > anything in BIOS.
>
> Ok, so here we're talking about SATA add-on cards, not just motherboard
> SATA ports. These days having SATA addon cards is NOT a widely used
> configuration.
>
You must be joking!
New machines pretty mush only come with onboard SATA RAID
which you guys keep saying should never be used.
And older machines never had SATA.
Make up your frickin minds.
> > Maybe the reason the developers can't find any problems is
> > they are not adding any additional controller cards.
>
> That is quite possible. You are correct in that most SATA cards lack
> the ability to disable loading a BIOS. SATA cards loading a BIOS
> overrides at times what is set in the motherboard BIOS for boot order.
I would have never guessed.
What do you think people have been complaining about?
>
> > ---
> > My system had:
> >
> > Before {working}:
> > Motherboard - 2 x PATA 66 - CD Burner,DVD-ROM
> > - 2 x SATA RAID 150 - 200GBx1 SATA Drives
> > PCI Cards - 2 x PATA 133 - ATA133 Drives 160GBx2,120GB,80GB
> > - 2 x SATA 150 - 200GBx2 SATA Drives
> >
> > After {not working}:
> > Motherboard - 2 x PATA 66 - CD Burner,DVD-ROM
> > - 2 x SATA RAID 150 - 200GBx2 SATA Drives
> > PCI Cards - 2 x PATA 133 - ATA133 Drives 160GBx2,120GB,80GB
> > - 2 x SATA 150 - 200GBx2 SATA Drives
> >
> > The only things that can be changed in BIOS are :
> > Logical drive allocation of onboard SATA RAID.
> > Drive settings of onboard PATA Drives.
> > Boot order : Floppy/CD/HD/SATA/(SCSI/Addon Controller) {Approximately}
> >
> > I had it configured to boot from : SCSI/CD
> > The order the devices are detected :
> > 1) Onboard PATA
> > 2) Ext SATA
> > 3) Ext ATA133
> > 4) Onboard SATA Raid
> >
> > Now {working}:
> > Motherboard - 2 x PATA 66 - CD Burner,DVD-ROM,ATA133 80GB
> > - 2 x SATA RAID 150 - 200GBx1 SATA Drives
> > PCI Cards - 2 x PATA 133 - ATA133 Drives 160GBx2,120GB
> > - 2 x SATA 150 - 200GBx2 SATA Drives
> >
> > Configured to boot from: HD/CD
>
> Some things to consider. PCI placement of the add on cards will effect
> which one is seen in which order. Also, the grub mbr stuff can live on
> just about any disk you want, as long as the motherboard will look there
> to boot from. Grub config can live on any disk as well. I have used
> this scenario, where I have pata disks on the motherboard and SATA disks
> on an add on PCI card. My Linux lived in the add on SATA disks, but
> grub mbr was on one of my IDE disks, it just looked out to the SATA
> disks to find the menu, and the menu was configured correctly to look to
> the right disks for booting various stuff.
I usually prefer to move all my PCI cards around every time I
upgrade a hard drive. Are you saying that is not a good idea?
>
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