Re: FC4t2 no good without LILO

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On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 08:06 -0600, Guy Fraser wrote:
> You must be joking!
> 
> New machines pretty mush only come with onboard SATA RAID 
> which you guys keep saying should never be used.

Almost all that I've looked at provide the ability to disable the RAID
subfeature of these chipsets in order to use them as straight SATA
controllers.

> And older machines never had SATA.
> 
> Make up your frickin minds.

By SATA addon cards I'm talking about SATA PCI cards, not a chip on the
motherboard.

> > > Maybe the reason the developers can't find any problems is 
> > > they are not adding any additional controller cards.
> > 
> > That is quite possible.  You are correct in that most SATA cards
> lack
> > the ability to disable loading a BIOS.  SATA cards loading a BIOS
> > overrides at times what is set in the motherboard BIOS for boot
> order.
> 
> I would have never guessed.
> 
> What do you think people have been complaining about?

Again, I'm speaking of SATA PCI cards, not the onboard SATA chips of
today's motherboards.  SATA PCI cards for the most part have been POS
things that only cause problems, regardless of boot loaders.

> > 
> > > ---
> > > My system had:
> > > 
> > > Before {working}:
> > > Motherboard - 2 x PATA 66       - CD Burner,DVD-ROM
> > >             - 2 x SATA RAID 150 - 200GBx1 SATA Drives
> > > PCI Cards   - 2 x PATA 133      - ATA133 Drives 160GBx2,120GB,80GB
> > >             - 2 x SATA 150      - 200GBx2 SATA Drives
> > > 
> > > After {not working}:
> > > Motherboard - 2 x PATA 66       - CD Burner,DVD-ROM
> > >             - 2 x SATA RAID 150 - 200GBx2 SATA Drives
> > > PCI Cards   - 2 x PATA 133      - ATA133 Drives 160GBx2,120GB,80GB
> > >             - 2 x SATA 150      - 200GBx2 SATA Drives
> > > 
> > > The only things that can be changed in BIOS are :
> > > Logical drive allocation of onboard SATA RAID.
> > > Drive settings of onboard PATA Drives.
> > > Boot order : Floppy/CD/HD/SATA/(SCSI/Addon Controller)
> {Approximately}
> > > 
> > > I had it configured to boot from : SCSI/CD
> > > The order the devices are detected :
> > > 1) Onboard PATA
> > > 2) Ext SATA
> > > 3) Ext ATA133
> > > 4) Onboard SATA Raid
> > > 
> > > Now {working}:
> > > Motherboard - 2 x PATA 66       - CD Burner,DVD-ROM,ATA133 80GB
> > >             - 2 x SATA RAID 150 - 200GBx1 SATA Drives
> > > PCI Cards   - 2 x PATA 133      - ATA133 Drives 160GBx2,120GB
> > >             - 2 x SATA 150      - 200GBx2 SATA Drives
> > > 
> > > Configured to boot from: HD/CD
> > 
> > Some things to consider.  PCI placement of the add on cards will
> effect
> > which one is seen in which order.  Also, the grub mbr stuff can live
> on
> > just about any disk you want, as long as the motherboard will look
> there
> > to boot from.  Grub config can live on any disk as well.  I have
> used
> > this scenario, where I have pata disks on the motherboard and SATA
> disks
> > on an add on PCI card.  My Linux lived in the add on SATA disks, but
> > grub mbr was on one of my IDE disks, it just looked out to the SATA
> > disks to find the menu, and the menu was configured correctly to
> look to
> > the right disks for booting various stuff.
> 
> I usually prefer to move all my PCI cards around every time I 
> upgrade a hard drive. Are you saying that is not a good idea?

I don't follow.

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