On Wednesday 23 March 2005 22:32, seth vidal wrote: > not entirely. Being a front end to yum, just like being a front end to > apt, would make for an EXTREMELY complex interface. Gui programs that > are merely front ends to cli programs are typically not-so-good. Synaptic is quite nice, in my opinion. It works for the purpose, gives a great, not very complicated GUI, and just works. I use version 0.55.3 here, and love it. Being able to answer the simple question "Hmmm, low on disk space...what large package can I get rid of that will give me the space I need?" is nice; with synaptic I just sort the packages by size, show all packages, and start doing 'what if?' scenarios on package removal. Similar functionality in a GUI package manager that is not dependent upon apt would be nice; yum based or directly on top of librpm, I don't care. But I need the functionality synaptic provides that I've not yet found elsewhere; I know there are problems with apt4rpm (like multilib, lack of development, etc) but the synaptic front end is a killer app, and until a suitable replacement is available apt4rpm will not die for the users out there. It's just too handy. Yumi (Cobind Software Manager) is terrible, on the other hand. I just thought synaptic took a long time to do things.... > If you > need any evidence of that look at all the programs that try to wrap > mkisos and cdrecord. They're a nightmare. Not k3b, at least in my opinion. K3b is IMO the best CD/DVD burning app out there for Linux at this time. > But then you look at something > like the nautilus cd burning interface and it's reasonably > straightforward. I don't use GNOME, so nautilus is irrelevant to me. I like and use KDE and have no reason to change; too much archived mail (in both maildir and mbox format; tried to convert to evolution once and it was a nightmare thanks to the inability at that time to move my filters from kmail over; I have hundreds of folders with hundreds of filters to place mail in the right folder, and I'm not losing that work!), too much intellectual equity in KDE at this point. Been running it since Mandrake 5.3 days back when Red Hat refused to use KDE due to the Qt license. Very glad when Red Hat 6 included KDE. Use kstars for work to do telescope control, too. No equivalent GNOME program. When GNOME gives me enough reason to switch, perhaps I'll switch. But not at this point. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu