On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 03:03:50PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > I have to agree with Chris. I have absolutely no issue with the > installer _warning_ me that the password I chose is (in the INSTALLER's > opinion) weak. The installer should ABSOLUTELY NOT force me to use some > arbitrarily obscure password to satisfy its criteria. I have very good > reasons for using the passwords I choose. Agreed (again). IMHO installing a system is a first step, *after* that follow configuring subsystems, adding users and setting passwords. A default of not accepting root logins via ssh is already a bit annoying, but adding another user at install time is an acceptable workaround. An installer should be good at what it should do, installing, not configuring. Unfortunately, using Red Hat Linux versions since 1996, having installed hundreds of systems, probably 1000+ (ok, mostly with kickstart), the installer has become extremely difficult to use the last years, because it tries to be "smart" and makes life for people that know what they want (like using preformatted partition tables etc.) extremely difficult. -- -- Jos Vos <jos@xxxxxx> -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test