On Sun, Feb 01, 2015 at 09:53:05PM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 14:03 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I think the main point is the one nirik made; I don't think the devs > > agree with your assessment of how significant this is. It's a minor > > inconvenience; you just have to come up with a password that passes > > the check, or use a kickstart. So I don't think they agree that it > > needs a full-blown security audit and FESCo review or whatever, > > because they don't think it's really that huge of a change in > > behaviour. > > Having to come up with a password that passes the check is not 'a minor > inconvenience'. Given how capricious libpwquality is about scoring > (there have been some examples in this thread, there are more in > gnome-initial-setup bugs), it is next to impossible. > > This discussion has been pretty heated, but I agree with there being > some aspect of 'collective punishment' here: just because _some_ systems > get installed with sshd enabled, all users who install the Workstation > have to spend a couple of frustrating minutes trying to find a password > that gets them past this hurdle. > > If this change stays, I anticipate the Workstation WG asking for a way > to the workstation installer not enforce this. I know the anaconda folks > are not eager to add variations like this, but that is exactly what we > need: If you want to enforce product-specific policy in the installer, > it needs to be a product-specific installer. You're assuming before asking. With the structure of the installer now, we can look at changes like taking the password aspect and making it product-specific controllable by a number of different methods. Our historic aim to end variant specifics in the installer was because the old code (and variants) lacked a way to assign owners to those product specifics, which meant that requests of the installer to be product specific meant we were asked to be the owners of those specifics. -- David Cantrell <dcantrell@xxxxxxxxxx> Manager, Installer Engineering Team Red Hat, Inc. | Westford, MA | EST5EDT -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
