On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 12:53:45PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Brian C. Lane <bcl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Next to impossible? Really? I've find it easy to come up with passwords > > that work. > > You think this is easy. Other's don't. It's a condescending, > pointless, and unwinnable argument, and it needs to stop. You might also look at the CentOS list, which has a high percentage of people who, y'know, actually use this stuff to make a living. You'll find that it's overwhelmingly against this. > > I don't find any of the arguments against the change to be compelling. Well, I don't find any of the arguments for a change, that will probably violate POLA (principle of least astonishment) at all compelling. You're making the change, it is up to you to justify. This reminds me of the time when they wanted packagekit to allow any user to upgrade any package--even now, any user can upgrade any installed, signed package--and they were going to go through with it till it made the front page of slashdot. > >We should be > > encouraging them to choose stronger passwords and we should remember > > that we're not the only people running Fedora. Yes, but most running Fedora aren't totally inexperienced. Nor for that matter, are people running Mint or Ubuntu--most have at least some knowledge of computers, otherwise, they run Windows or OSX. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test