On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 19:55 -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > It's not actually something that is part of the Change's scope, > > but an alternative way to try and achieve the same goal: the > > overall thought process was "well, what the Change proposer really > > wants is to reduce the likelihood of compromise via password > > access to the root account, > > So, why didn't this change have to go through a proposal? The > original change was rejected (which should show there is > disagreement about this), so such a change should not just be pushed > without open discussion. There's no policy (AFAIK) on what is and is not a Change. FESCo has the power to effectively declare something to be a Change (and thus subject to review and so forth) if it decides to do so, but there's nothing beyond that. And as I said to otherChris, 'without open discussion' is just plainly false. There's a ton of 'open discussion', spread across three mailing lists. > If there is disagreement about this change, is there no recourse? > Or do anaconda devs get to determine system policy now on their own? Eh, that seems like a pointlessly loaded question. I mean, in a sense, sure, they always have. They *write the installer*. That's always going to involve some degree of 'determining system policy', if you interpret that phrase broadly enough. What do you want, every anaconda commit to go through a committee review phase? And 'recourse' seems like such a weird word that, again, I don't really know how to reply to it. You can discuss the decision, in a respectful fashion, here or on devel@ or on anaconda-devel-list@. You can take it up with FESCo. You could also, of course, wait more than one lousy day to give the devs a chance to reply before whipping up a storm of righteous indignation, but so often that seems too much to ask? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test