On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 05:54 -0500, Gene Czarcinski wrote: > On 12/13/2013 03:20 AM, poma wrote: > > On 13.12.2013 08:25, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > >> >I argue that we should get rid of the DVD it's an era of the past and > >> >just provide net-install iso and lives. > > Probably there are good reasons why the DVD is still here. > Indeed! There are environments/situations where there is no network > connectivity (at least to the Internet) and never will be. It is this > type of situations that will require a DVD. > > Another situation is where I am installing into a qemu-kvm virtual > system. Yes, there will be Internet connectivity. Yes, it is nice to > have everything updated on install. But, running with just the DVD > image is a lot faster (takes much less wall-clock time). Not that I necessarily agree with johann on this one, but he did say to keep the netinst *and the lives*. Live installs work without a network and are even faster than DVD installs in VMs. > BTW, if a live image is suppose to represent "The" set for a desktop > such as KDE, then that should be the same on the DVD. But, if there > really should be more than can fit on a live cdrom image, then why not > change that to be a live DVD image. After all, how many computers out > only have a cdrom drive as oppose to a dvd drive capable of handling > both cdroms and dvds? We already gave up on CDs a couple of releases back. GNOME and KDE are currently targeting 1GB (power-of-ten), but still have to cut stuff out to make size. They can choose to go up to 2GB or higher if they like; it's up to the SIGs to decide (at the start of a release cycle, of course). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test