Re: Criterion revision proposal: KDE default applications

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On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 05:54 -0500, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
> On 12/13/2013 03:20 AM, poma wrote:
> > On 13.12.2013 08:25, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >
> >> >I argue that we should get rid of the DVD it's an era of the past and
> >> >just provide net-install iso and lives.
> > Probably there are good reasons why the DVD is still here.
> Indeed!  There are environments/situations where there is no network 
> connectivity (at least to the Internet) and never will be.  It is this 
> type of situations that will require a DVD.
> 
> Another situation is where I am installing into a qemu-kvm virtual 
> system.  Yes, there will be Internet connectivity.  Yes, it is nice to 
> have everything updated on install.  But, running with just the DVD 
> image is a lot faster (takes much less wall-clock time).

Not that I necessarily agree with johann on this one, but he did say to
keep the netinst *and the lives*. Live installs work without a network
and are even faster than DVD installs in VMs.

> BTW, if a live image is suppose to represent "The" set for a desktop 
> such as KDE, then that should be the same on the DVD.  But, if there 
> really should be more than can fit on a live cdrom image, then why not 
> change that to be a live DVD image.  After all, how many computers out 
> only have a cdrom drive as oppose to a dvd drive capable of handling 
> both cdroms and dvds?

We already gave up on CDs a couple of releases back. GNOME and KDE are
currently targeting 1GB (power-of-ten), but still have to cut stuff out
to make size. They can choose to go up to 2GB or higher if they like;
it's up to the SIGs to decide (at the start of a release cycle, of
course).
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