On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 05:31 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On fös 13.des 2013 02:05, Adam Williamson wrote: > > It was clear at the Go/No-Go meeting today that KDE SIG does not > > consider this release criterion applicable/desired: > > > > "All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical > > mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation of > > that desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality > > test." > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria#Default_application_functionality > > > > jreznik says they consider the live image their 'polished product' where > > everything must work, while the DVD install is more of a grab-bag - they > > install a whole bunch of stuff, and don't think it's the end of the > > world if one or two bits are broken. > > > > Given that, I propose re-wording as follows: > > You are trying to fix the problem on the wrong end thus leave the > criteria as is. > > The installing should not differ ( or in other word be consistent ) > regardless if you install from the live or from the dvd the end result > should be the same. > > You should have the same service enablement, the same desktop instalment > and experience etc. > > So get releng to get their act together and fix that for the dvd so > matches with the live. Per my long reply on the other sub-thread, I'm fine with that if it actually _happens_. But it's not releng's responsibility; it's the KDE and desktop SIGs. They own this stuff: it's their responsibility to choose what packages go in the lives and what packages are deployed when you do a DVD install of their desktops. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test