Re: F19 Installer a little better, but...

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On Fri, 2013-06-14 at 05:24 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2013-06-13 15:42 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
> 
> > All existing partitions are shown in the tree
> > view on the left hand side of custom partitioning. You can select one
> > and assign a mount point to it on the right hand side, and choose
> > whether or not to reformat it.
> 
> Its unintuitive logic has me pretty well baffled. I started my first new 
> installation since December on Wednesday evening. Since then, all my F19s had 
> been the result of F18 upgrades, most of which were F17 upgrades, many of 
> which were F16 upgrades. I didn't like Fedora's old installer much. I like 
> the current one a lot less.
> 
> I started with this partititon layout:
> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/kt880L09.txt
> 
> When I started, sda20 was a freshly created empty EXT3, and my target for 
> F19's /. In spite of a huge variety of difficulty, a few hours after 
> beginning I somehow managed to get a working "Basic Desktop" installed onto 
> it, followed by adding as much of KDE as I'll ever use, for a net 73% used of 
> the total 4.8G partition size.
> 
> More than 60% of the gross time since beginning, at least 15 hours estimated 
> net, I was doing nothing unrelated to F19 installation, including trying 
> unsuccessfully to get a minimal installation onto the identically sized 
> sda19. Each time I got as far as 
> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anaconda19tc3-06parts-0768.png and no further 
> than being told insufficient space 
> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anaconda19tc3-11addfailure-1024.png & 
> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anaconda19tc3-04partoptions-1200.png even 
> though available space for / on sda19 is identical to the successful and 
> larger http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/fedora19tc3-KDEinstsum.png installation. 
> It let me select the empty 4.8G partitions for formatting, but no amount of 
> clicking on the add mount point or configure selected mount point buttons 
> would allow me any progress in attempting to fill in the partition 
> characteristics fields - until: in advance of beginning an installation 
> attempt, I put a filesystem on the never-used-previously target / 
> partition!?!?!?!
> 
> Is absence of any filesystem on a target / supposed to block installation???

Well, no, but it seems pretty clear to me what you should have done at
the point of
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anaconda19tc3-06parts-0768.png : changed
the 'File System' drop down to whatever you wanted to use (ext4,
whatever) and then entered / for the 'Mount Point'. That ought to have
been sufficient. All you've done in the screenshot is tell anaconda to
reformat the partition: you haven't told it you actually want to *use*
it for anything.

'Add Mount Point' is for creating a new partition, and 'configure
selected mount point' is only going to work for a partition that has
been assigned a mount point.

Did you try, at any point, reading the documentation? The F18
Installation Guide did a rather good job of documenting how newUI works.

> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/ has screenshots mostly of the installation 
> process, in part because without them the problems have been too numerous to 
> for me to be able to remember. My difficulty with Anaconda's wheel logic is 
> compounded by the illegibility of its tiny gray text on gray background.

If you're talking about
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anaconda19tc3-03destination-1024.png ,
it's not actually meant to be that small, I don't think. It doesn't look
like that for me in VMs or on metal. What environment are you running
the installer in, exactly?
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