Re: F19 Installer a little better, but...

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On Tue, 2013-06-11 at 06:27 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:09:47 -0700
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > "They will be left untouched until you click on the
> > main menu's "Begin Installation" button.
> 
> Yea, but then what happens? You still have no idea.

It ought to make it pretty clear that it's safe to just go ahead and
click 'Done' and see what happens.

> > we tried two other layouts before this one and
> > people found both of those confusing too
> 
> How about just starting directly in a screen listing
> all the disks and partitions in a tree? I've never
> understood what good the "select disks" step
> is (especially if I have a pair of identical disks
> in the system I can't possibly distinguish between
> unless I have the serial numbers memorized :-).

It is very useful if you want to be absolutely sure that a given disk
will not be used at all, without using custom partitioning. We don't
want to show everyone in the world a treeview of disks and partitions.
In fact we don't want to show anyone a treeview of disks and partitions,
because for everyone but those of us who've been looking at tree views
of disks and partitions long enough that we have Stockholm Syndrome,
it's a horrible and incomprehensible interface. And remember, it's 2013,
we don't just care about partitions any more. We have RAID sets, LVM
containers and btrfs containers to worry about.

The newUI storage workflow is pretty clearly defined: pick some disks
(or network storage devices or whatever), then pick what to do with
their contents.

I would like to take one more shot at the 'Done' button for F20, and I
do think there are some issues with how the 'Installation Options'
dialog behaves in complex cases, but overall I think the workflow is
pretty good in F19, and once you're used to it, if you go back to F17,
it seems like a mess. At least, it does to me. I don't really _enjoy_
creating LVM layouts or software RAID sets from scratch, the
partition-by-partition way...
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