On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 15:41 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 10:44 -0800, Per Bothner wrote: > > > Though it seems a bug to set the installed default mode line to > > nomodeset based on whether one boots up the live DVD in basic graphics > > mode. Better to install the settings appropriate for the hardware > > *plus* some kind of "safe mode" in the grub menu. > > (To be clear: when I said "foolishly" in my other mail, I meant it in > the sense that we're fools for making that trap so easy to fall into. > Apologies if offense was taken; none was intended.) > > Well, we don't normally set video parameters in the grub config at all. > The theory is that you'll only hit 'nomodeset' if you had to use it to > install, and in that case if we then defaulted to booting a KMS > configuration you'd probably be booting a configuration that you _know_ > won't work, since it's the same kernel as you just used to run the > installer (if you're not enabling updates at install time). > > So really, to me, this suggests that we should hide the 'nomodeset' > install option a little better. I suspect that showing it early in the > install process suggests to people that it's somehow more likely to > succeed and therefore desirable. I don't see how we could show it any _later_ - it has to be before the kernel is booted, obviously. Or do you just mean 'put it lower in the list of options'? I don't know, though. I've been doing this for several years now and I can count on one hand the number of cases where people have picked 'basic graphics mode' without actually needing to, including this one. I don't think it's really a problem. You already have to dig down into an 'advanced' menu to find it. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test