On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 17:21 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 11:24:54PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 11/09/2012 10:56 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > >Vbox and vmware require external kernel modules. > > > > Can you please provide a link to where it says you need to install > > "external kernel modules" > > Somebody said so earlier in this thread and I took it for a face value. > Maybe I misunderstood something? I think there's still some host/guest confusion going on, possibly. VBox does need out-of-tree kernel modules when run as a host on Linux. Some Linux distros package these via kmods or dkms or whatever. I'm not sure if RPMFusion packages them for Fedora. If your distro does not have a packaged version of RPMFusion with the kernel modules included, you have to use a little installer script that comes along with VBox to install them. When running as a guest in VBox, I don't believe Linux _needs_ any out of tree kernel modules to function, though I think there may be optional 'guest drivers' like most virt systems have, to improve the efficiency of graphics and networking and provide for file transfer and clipboarding between host and guest and so on. I think you are a bit off-base when you say "This detail alone immediately limits an audience for these "solutions" to a rather narrow circle", though, even considering the host case. It's not very difficult to install the modules to use VBox as a host even on Fedora, and on Windows, Mac or many other distros, you can install VBox with the usual installer system, you don't have to manually fiddle about with the kernel modules. I know from experience on these lists and on the forums that many users do it. I'd say VBox is probably the most popular virtualization environment for the 'desktop enthusiast' user group, who use a simple single-system virt system to test out OSes and distributions - a completely different use case from the 'enterprise virt' user who is running multiple machines on a dedicated host. As I mentioned up-thread, many users cite VBox's ease of use and features like 3D passthrough as a reason to use it over virt-manager/libvirt/kvm. Just go to the Fedora or Ubuntu forums and look how many people ask for help with, or mention in passing that they are using, VBox. It's quite a lot. And rather a lot more than mention virt-manager. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
