On 08/23/2012 01:07 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On 2012-08-22 19:18, Arnav Kalra wrote:
Maybe you can try making a simple SQL database in which people post
their results. It should have different tables for different test
days. This would allow you to easily sort the data and would not be
very difficult to implement.
The advertisement part is easy to do but I think your main problem is
collection of data and making that data easily accessible to users.
It...really isn't that simple, unfortunately. I wrote an overview a
few days back on devel@, so I'll just link to that:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-July/170437.html
The 'edit your results into a wiki table' approach certainly isn't the
perfect answer to managing test day results, but making it better is a
more complex problem than it might appear. In practice, I don't think
it's something that's a massive dampener on people's willingness to
participate in test days, though we don't really have any evidence
either way on that, so it all comes down to gut feeling...
Yeah, I feel like the wiki isn't really a barrier, except maybe from the
point of view of someone who might be interested and just sees a
reallllly long list (speaking more to TC/RC testing, not really test
days) and is overwhelmed and runs.
Advertisement may be easy but a lot of it really has to do with being
able to keep the person captive who was already interested when they
clicked the link. Maybe it's worth thinking about having something in
the InfoBox on the wiki that says "how easy it is" - maybe with some
sort of matching page of criteria for 3 or 4 levels of ease - SuperEasy
being "I can boot from a USB key into a desktop", Kind of Easy being "I
can boot from a USB key into a desktop and also use virtualization," etc.
And then going back to ... well, stuff that crosses over to thinks
marketing could maybe help with, and would be useful when doing the
actual advertising... "New to testing? Watch this shiny 5-minute video,"
"Why is testing important?" ... "How you can help out in XXX minutes or
less," kind of stuff. I think people often are willing to do things,
and are looking for short-duration ways to help out, and maybe they
aren't aware that test days or validation tests can be a good place to
do that. Or they don't know when getting to the test day page, or test
matrix, if they're going to need 20 minutes, or a day.
Maybe something to do would be to work with infra around the time of the
next test day or even as we move towards another RC test round, and as
we advertise in our normal ways (ie: QA folks blog that it's happening)
see if we can figure out how many times the wiki page is being accessed
- if we're getting lots of hits but not a lot of turnout, maybe it's
confusing, but if we're not getting hits, maybe it's just that we're not
making enough noise, or the same people see it many times and sort of
phase it out.
-r
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