On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Tom Horsley <horsley1953@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I noticed to my horror in another thread today that > fedora 16 is going to switch to grub2. > > I hope it is packaged and updated totally differently > from the version in ubuntu, because the ubuntu > version is a nightmare. > > Do we still have to edit random files then run > update-grub to build the actual config file > via preprocessed fragments? > > I think grub2 would be fine if it worked exactly > like grub, with a one and only config file you > could edit by hand or kernel updates could modify > directly with a tool like grubby. > > With separate files to edit and changes not taking > effect till you run an update script, we have reverted > back to the stone age of lilo. It is absolutely > irrelevant that lilo needed to run an update tool > for a completely different reason, the plain fact > is that lilo died primarily because grub did not > need a separate update step, and therefore there was > nothing to forget to do after modifying the boot > config. > > Worse yet (on ubuntu anyway) many things are not > configurable via the config file intended to be > edited by humans, so you wind up needing to edit > random files you aren't intended to edit. Files > that are likely to erase your changes when an > update for grub2 itself is installed. > > For example: The "helpful" code to prevent automatic > booting when a previous boot failed. If you have > a machine with no access to the boot console, > now it will never boot again (even if the previous > boot problem was something external to the machine > that is now fixed). There is no way to disable > this "helpful" feature of grub2 in any of the > ifdefs, you have to go off and modify files you > aren't supposed to be looking at. > > I'm begging you here: Provide a new grubby2 tool > to edit the one true config file if you must. Allow > me to edit the one true config file by hand, but > do not stick with the abomination that is preprocessed > bits and pieces needing to be jammed together with > a separate update step. Nothing good will come of > it. grubby has a "--grub2" flag but it's not (yet) in the man page, so you don't have to rely on grub-mkconfig/grub2-mkconfig to create menu entries. I have no idea whether the rest of grub.cfg can be configured with it. (In defense of Ubuntu, it's just using the upstream way, just as Debian - and even Fedora - does when you use grub-mkconfig/grub2-mkconfig.) -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
