I noticed to my horror in another thread today that fedora 16 is going to switch to grub2. I hope it is packaged and updated totally differently from the version in ubuntu, because the ubuntu version is a nightmare. Do we still have to edit random files then run update-grub to build the actual config file via preprocessed fragments? I think grub2 would be fine if it worked exactly like grub, with a one and only config file you could edit by hand or kernel updates could modify directly with a tool like grubby. With separate files to edit and changes not taking effect till you run an update script, we have reverted back to the stone age of lilo. It is absolutely irrelevant that lilo needed to run an update tool for a completely different reason, the plain fact is that lilo died primarily because grub did not need a separate update step, and therefore there was nothing to forget to do after modifying the boot config. Worse yet (on ubuntu anyway) many things are not configurable via the config file intended to be edited by humans, so you wind up needing to edit random files you aren't intended to edit. Files that are likely to erase your changes when an update for grub2 itself is installed. For example: The "helpful" code to prevent automatic booting when a previous boot failed. If you have a machine with no access to the boot console, now it will never boot again (even if the previous boot problem was something external to the machine that is now fixed). There is no way to disable this "helpful" feature of grub2 in any of the ifdefs, you have to go off and modify files you aren't supposed to be looking at. I'm begging you here: Provide a new grubby2 tool to edit the one true config file if you must. Allow me to edit the one true config file by hand, but do not stick with the abomination that is preprocessed bits and pieces needing to be jammed together with a separate update step. Nothing good will come of it. -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test