On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 01:53:31PM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > On 08/23/2013 01:43 PM, zacharias.mitzelos@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > >And also byfollowing the default is open method, that's why we > >decided to make a mailing list on our own, to discuss about any issues on the > >magazine with all the users. And we don't limit the discussions to bugs > >on the magazine only, but to bring all discussions regarding the > >magazine on this list. And we also want our visitors (and developers > >ofc) to communicate with us (stuff) in a way. And not having them > >contacting the marketing list ;) > > I don't understand the problem with contacting the marketing list. > Can you perhaps make it clear to me how magazine-related discussions > are not marketing-related and why they should be separate? > > >I don't think that making this list is "a too much". And needless to > >say that any major changes on the magazine will be forwarded on the > >marketing list so everyone can comment(eg. Fedora calendar). We don't > >want to separate the magazine from the marketing team. ;) > > I'm not talking only about major changes, though - I'm talking about > any general discussion. > > The magazine should be a core part of the marketing effort, IMHO. > Having it require two lists seems counter-intuitive to that. > > >PS: the idea was discussed on our weekly meeting and no one > >disagreed with that. > > Unfortunately, I was unable to make the meeting due to being in new > hire orientation, or I would have disagreed. This is one of the > reasons I like Apache's approach of taking decisions on the mailing > list and having a 72-hour window to discuss things... by default, > there's always someone who can't make a meeting due to time zone > issues, work commitments, etc. Right, another crucial part of "default to open." At least give a nominal time for people not attending to voice support, concerns, etc. before a decision. At the same time, establish a deadline so in the absence of feedback, things can move forward without stalling. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing