On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 07:30 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 02:07:37PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > My point is: I sense not a single trace of democracy at RH and I sense > > not a trace of supervision/monitoring/control of the community over the > > boards inaugurated by RH. > > > > Some examples: > > * RH has killed the FF, without even informing the community in advance. > > (Now some projects are complaining about lack of funding - Could it be > > RH missed the aspect of using a "foundation as means of fundraising?) > > > > What does that have to do with FESCO? We are discussing FESCO and relationship to the community and to the FPB, and how democracy can be introduced. > > * RH has proclaimed the FPB and has inaugurated the persons at their own > > will without consulting nor informing the community. They selecting a > > person as head we never saw in any Fedora Project before nor without > > thinking about this organs interaction with other Fedora Projects. > > (In politics such an incident would be called "palace revolution") > > Again, what does that have to do with FESCO? FPB controls FESCO. > You seem to want to escalate issues with Fedora That's absolutely not my intention, but you are right, I consider current Fedora leadership model as to be close to the worst of all possible models. > Extras was around before either of those examples happened. It's also the > largest community driven project within Fedora itself. I believe (and I > could be mistaken here) that it is also the first official Fedora project > to be chaired by someone outside of Red Hat.(1) My point is, Extras seems > to move along at it's own pace and the on-goings of how Red Hat is dealing > with things don't appear to have a large detrimental impact. > > We're talking about how we, the Extras community, want to govern ourselves. > Leave Red Hat out of this discussion please. That's one possible attitude ... But ask yourself: Given RH's attitude, is FESCO of any importance? As I sense it: No, it isn't. This discussion a waste of time. The RH or current FESCO Gods will decide on their will. The best we can expect is of them giving us an ear :( Ralf -- fedora-extras-list mailing list fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-extras-list
