Re: [Fwd: Wikipidia - Goodbye Red Hat and Fedora]

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Rex Dieter wrote:

Blame too those upstream projects who introduce these changes, fedora is
just a collection of all those items.
So you'll ship any sort of breakage with no regard to the interfaces you
promoted last month?

Thanks for putting words into my and fedora's mouth.

Actually I'm trying to give a user's perspective. As a closed black box, fedora might work. I want to use 3rd party drivers, components, apps, etc. but can't deal with them breaking every few months.

OK, I'll bite a bit...
when it's the choice of shipping an older unsupported version of software
vs. latest/supported, sometimes, yeah.  It's a tough choice to have to
make.

Older/newer isn't quite the point here - it is more about why it is necessary to break old functionality to add new or improved. Start with the premise that fedora repositories don't and cannot contain all the software that I want to run and perhaps you can see why interface change is painful.

Unanswered:
Is there similar outrage against upstreams as well?  Where is it?

Yes, to whatever extent upstream refuses to respect their own interfaces as contracts with other programmers they deserve outrage as well. But, you don't have to ship that stuff. Maybe if no one did, they'd decide it was worth stabilizing interfaces to a point where others could cooperate.

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