On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 12:38 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Dmitry Butskoy wrote: > > Itamar - IspBrasil wrote: > >> > >> any chance to increase the life of fedora releases ? > >> > >> or fedora will be only blending edge ? > >> > >> In my opinion fedora is losing space from centos and ubuntu > > > > ... > > > >> The brazilian government, one of the biggest Fedora Case of the world is > >> changing from Fedora/ Red Hat to Ubuntu/Debian. > > > > The problem was at an initial point, when Fedora was considered "for > > enthusiasts only". A lot of previous "RedHat Linux enthusiasts" just > > switch to CentOS (and similar RHEL-based systems), no more using Fedora, > > because "it is marked as a non-for-production system even by its creators". > > > The fact that they switched to CentOS is *good* for Fedora. I can not disagree more - To me, it's yet another evidence of Fedora being on the loose. > CentOS's > goals are better oriented to the needs of someone that wants to deploy a > system and run it for years. Fedora is good for people who want to get > the latest technologies from upstream as soon as they're stable enough > to integrate into a running system. Right. But why can't Fedora do better? I feel Fedora could do better. > > This situation seems to be reflected in the Fedora project itself. > > Guess, how many Fedora infrastructure servers are run under the latest > > "stable" Fedora release? > > As few as possible. IMO, a fundamental management/infrastructure mistake - If these people were using Fedora, they would be facing the issues Fedora users are facing everyday and likely would being to understand why people complain about Fedora. > The reason is not about stability. It is about > updates. Once Fedora stops getting updates we'd have to upgrade to the > next Fedora release with all of the churn that causes for vastly > unrelated pieces of the OS. Gotcha! If not even the Fedora project can handle the issues, why do you expect users to be able to solve them? I think technically the issues can be overcome. It's a matter of will. Ralf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list