On Tue, 23.09.08 14:26, Olivier Galibert (galibert@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 02:21:26PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Oh my. So you know someone who thinks that ioctl()s are ingenious API > > design? You probably should choose your friends more carefully, then. ;-) > > ALSA's kernel interface is 100% ioctl. It doesn't even use read() or > write(). I know. But ALSA hides that in a library, so you never have to deal with these ugly details. Ain't that great? OTOH OSS' programmers interface *is* the ioctls themselves. And that's one reason why its API sucks. Also, OSS is practically not virtualizable. (LD_PRELOAD and CUSE are hacks, that only work for the smallest part) The timing model is broken. The entire design is hardware-specific, and focusses on hw we had 20 years ago. OSS as an API is terrible. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net ICQ# 11060553 http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list