Le Lun 15 septembre 2008 14:04, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski a écrit : > > On Monday, 15 September 2008 at 13:39, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> >> The console has not evolved for a long time, while text requirements >> have gone up. At this point a dumbed down text-only X session is >> probably the only credible console future (or something that is not >> X >> at all but uses many libraries we associate with apps now). > > Irrelevant. I'm not saying the text mode console has to have the > same usability as a full-screen terminal emulator running on X. That may be irrelevant for you but that's not irrelevant for me both as a console user and as someone who is an upstream maintainer for my language of some of the bits the console use. The separation between the X text stack and the console text stack is not worth the maintenance burden. As evidenced by the fact the maintenance part of the console text stack (even as iso-functionnality) is not done properly anymore. >> Non-X-console state is so bad nowadays I don't bother reporting bugs >> on it. Even if they are fixed they always reappear the next Fedora >> cycle. There is simply not enough console users and console >> developpers to do anything but life support anymore. > > I don't know of any bugs that prevent me or my colleagues from using > the text mode console. Lucky you. > That's not to say they don't exist, but I've > never heard of any problems with the console either personally or from > my colleagues. So it works for you. OSS works for some people too. >> And that's ok. Do remember that X was defined at a time hardware was >> vastly less powerful and core X is not wasteful at all. Compared to >> how the rest of the system has bloated, X is definitely lean and >> mean. > > That doesn't mean you have to disable the text mode console. Do you volunteer for maintening all the stuff text mode console relies on (fonts, layout definitions, etc)? -- Nicolas Mailhot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
