On Monday, 15 September 2008 at 17:48, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > Le Lun 15 septembre 2008 17:32, Seth Vidal a écrit : > > > > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 16:42 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > >> > So because it doesn't work for you its not allowed to work for me? > >> > >> Just because it works for you does not mean it's healthy in general. > >> > > > > 'healthy in general'? I'd love to see how we determine that criteria. > > > > So, yah - let's not play this game, shall we? > > > > Here is my question: > > - does the presence of the text console limit the ability for the X > > interfaces to work? I think the answer is no. > > - does the presence of the text console make a considerable impact on > > the available development time of the poeple working on X? I'd have to > > see some numbers that say otherwise but the answer still feels like > > no. > > We have all sorts of packaging rules designed to avoid hitting console > limitations and problems. > > Every few months we have people filling bugs because the presence of > two text stacks confuses them and they don't understand why things > working in one do not work in the other (and that's the people who do > fill bugs. they tend to be from asian countries where people > under-report problems). Bugzilla links, please. > We have spin teams that do not install the default distro font set to > make room for stuff like the console, and then ask for help because it > broke X text on some locale. Bugzilla/mailing list links, please. > So console support is not free for the rest of the distro. And I'd be > happy to applaud this cost, if someone actively maintained the console > (instead of playing the "touch nothing, if something broke that's the > distro fault" game). These ARE good arguments. Why didn't you use them in the first place instead of hand-waving? Regards, R. -- Fedora http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rathann Livna http://rpm.livna.org | MPlayer http://mplayerhq.hu "Faith manages." -- Delenn to Lennier in Babylon 5:"Confessions and Lamentations" -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list