Re: Xorg 1.5 missed the train?

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Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
* Callum Lerwick [21/05/2008 11:03] :
I like how in these threads it keeps conveniently being ignored that we work
just fine out of the box on Nvidia. We just don't have 3D yet.

I've always being surprised at the amount of blame-shifting that occurs
in regards to Nvidia's drivers.

- The free drivers suck. This apparently isn't NVidia's fault (which is
  strange since they help maintain it) but the x.org developers'.

Yet everyone here keeps saying something better would happen if only the proprietary driver were free.

- The non-free drivers aren't free. This apparently isn't NVidia's fault.

There are such things as non disclosure agreements that can prevent publishing information. Why shouldn't you respect their legal obligations?

- This makes the drivers impossible to ship as part of the distribution
  or support as a third-party repo. This is somehow the distribution's
  fault.

The binaries permit redistribution. How does that make it impossible to have in a repository?

- They don't release drivers once the ABI is frozen or even the day
  stable releases of x.org are issued. This apparently isn't their fault.

This seems to be speculation, seeing as how we don't have a release and the xorg drivers were done before they told anyone else the interface was stable.

- They won't release the specs. This apparently isn't their fault.

It may be legal commitments - but its their right either way and not really anyone else's business.

- They badmouth the open source developement model. I have no idea why
  but this isn't their fault.

Open source is probably a tiny part of their business. The stuff seems OK on a Mac and I haven't seen this kind of complaint about Solaris which uses essentially the same driver. But perhaps they do a better job of coordinating their releases so all the needed components are ready before users have to deal with it.

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