On 13.03.2008 07:25, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >>>>>>> "VS" == Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta@xxxxxx> writes: >> VS> And by the way, in my opinion the discussion should not be only >> VS> about Unicode, but about restricting package names even to a >> VS> subset of ASCII (let's say eg. a-z, A-Z, 0-9, -, +, _, .). FWIW, +1 >> This is why we need a concrete proposal to vote on. Things would have >> gone much better if we had one. > +1 > One of the problems I have with "ban packages with unicode names" is > that it doesn't consider what to do when a package name upstream is > non-ASCii. Well, I see your point, but on the other hand: do we need to have details like those you outline in the guidelines? There is enough in there already and they are hard to read and understand. Further: And does the FPC really need and want to solve details like this? Trying to sort those out is of course a respectable goal, but it's not yet a big problem afaics. So maybe it really just as simple as saying "ban packages with unicode names". or, to be more precise, make it something like: "Package names are limited to 'a-z, A-Z, 0-9, -, +, _, .' If you have a package with a different problem come to fedora-packaging-list and discuss with us; once we solved it in a few packages we can write a page like 'Hints how to adjust package names if they contain non-ASCII characters'". That's easier for everyone. And then the problem can be solved step by step over time by those that are effected together with the FPC members. The 'Hints how to adjust...' page for that of course could and should be separated from the guidelines and not protected by the ACLs for easy maintenance. The reason why I write this mail is because I think we over optimize things and try to regulate to many details (in Fedora in general, not specific to the FPC). That's afaics a lot of work for the committees (which we need for more important things), feels like bureaucracy for the packagers and slows us down more and more as things get more complicated. And even worse, you can think hours how to solve problems and all their details, you'll miss one or two special cases often, so a "hits page" maintained by those that are effected is IMHO a way better place for details than the guidelines. > [...] Just my 2 cent. CU knurd -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
