On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:03:58AM -0500, Tom spot Callaway wrote: > > The FPC has a documented process (which is almost never followed) on how I am external to the FPC, but I follow these issues and it seems to me that this process is often followed -- maybe not to the letter, but to the intent. For little changes a mail may suffice (I remember I refused to make a draft for the tetex -> tex prefix change), but as far as I remember, there has always been a vote. > We try to do this as efficiently as possible. We are ALWAYS open to new > drafts and changes. We may not always approve them, but we will discuss > just about anything. I can testify that it is true, since everytime I proposed something informally or formally it was nicely discussed and processed. Sometimes it takes long because one has to have a discussion, then FPC votes, then FESCo ratifies, but I doubt this may be better without sucking too much commitee members time. > We're also open to process improvements, and we're > actively seeking new members to serve on the FPC. > > Thorsten, this is certainly not intended as a criticism for you, as I > continue to have great admiration for the work that you do in the Fedora > community, but rather, a call to action for specific improvements that > we can make to streamline the bureaucracy. :) I am not a bureaucracy lover and it seems to me that the FPC is doing a good work. We really need bureaucracy for the guideline changes. And maybe I am disgressing here, but I also think that sometimes some bureaucracy helps shaping processes such that the process themselves are less bureaucratic. For example if there had been a commitee composed of users looking at the rel-eng policy changes, maybe there won't have been so much heavy processes accepted (this is gradually becoming better but at some point it was unbearable). Otherwise said bureaucratic control over the processes themselves may help avoiding bureaucratic processes. -- Pat -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list