On 15.11.2007 09:44, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 23:18 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > [...] >> With getting fixed I'm not sure how to get that fixed exactly; maybe >> work work more towards a Meritocracy-like way and lessen the influence >> of the committees we have? > What are you aiming at? [...] If somebody (member of a committee or not) wants to do something let him announce his plans and let him simply realize it if nobody yells loudly (nobody could be an individual or a coordinating committee like FESCo or FPC). Example: take a look at the problem that I raised in https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-packaging/2007-September/msg00060.html The solution I proposed wasn't the best one (see later in the discussion). But it could be a better solution for older releases; and the proper solution for the problem was found in that thread as well. I would have adjusted that the guidelines myself -- but that it not wanted afaics and even prevented by ACLs in the Packaging/ space in the wiki. Thus I have to wait for the FPC to take care of it. Which it didn't do until now. Sure, I could have tried harder -- but I wasn't much more interested in dealing with the bureaucracy, so I ignored it. Which is exatly the problem in Fedora-land: we have to much buerogracy and most contributors don't want to deal with it, thus they leave the work to the committee#s instead of helping them to do their work) Similar problem (also not earth-shaking and a corner-case as well), also still unfixed: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-packaging/2007-August/msg00092.html Cu knurd -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list