On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 01:02:06PM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > There are guidelines for packaging. They contain a standard for naming > > pre-release packages. The kernel package clearly is violating it as the > > version of the kernel is in fact 2.6.20-rc4, but the %version is 2.6.19. > > Can we agree so far? FWIW I'm also on the same line as Thorsten on using upstream versioning, e.g. having 2.6.20rcN carry a %version of 2.6.20. > I don't consider rc's as released versions. The package version number > should state the latest released version that package is based on. > If we were to go down this route, we'd have to contend with the > other upstream naming conventions too. > look at the combinations we have :- 2.6.19, 2.6.19-git1, 2.6.19-rc1, 2.6.19.1, > 2.6.19-rc1-git1, 2.6.19.1-rc1 That's true of miriads of other software projects, too, and that's why there are mechanisms in the guidelines for properly dealing with that. > If rpmvercmp gets all of those transitions correct, I'll be surprised. See the packaging guidelines. > We've got much bigger fish to fry, and this afaics can only introduce problems. Deviating from upstream's uname is creating huge problems, finxing that will make many external kernel projects work out of the box with Fedora's kernel. The current situation is a follows: o Upstream goes to 2.6.20rc1 introducing most or all API/ABI changes towards 2.6.19 o all external kernel projects start probing the kernel sources for 2.6.20 o Fedora goes 2.6.20rcN, but changes upstream version to 2.6.19 o all external kernel projects boom o reports to external kernel projects lead to blaming Fedora In order to not patch each and every kmdl out there I'm changing the version in the kernel sources back to 2.6.20. Fixed 5 (!) kmdls that way with "one" character edit (it's more complicated than that, but that's the simplified version). So for the kernel, please do consider adjusting versioning to standard Fedora practices. Pretty, pretty please!!! -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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