On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 10:24 AM Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 07:27:59AM -0800, Michel Lind wrote: > > - how easy is it to bootstrap the different options (Konflux, Koji, OBS etc)? > > - how easy is it to run each locally for those who want to dogfood the process or participate in development? > > I'm not sure it's really necessary to run all the build systems > ourselves to evaluate them, but nevertheless ... > > Konflux: > > Since this seems to be built on Kubernetes, I can tell you already > that's practically very difficult. A "proper" Kubernetes involves > having tons of hardware which is way out of range of the hobbyist. > There are multiple other ways of installing minimal Kubernetes but I > tried a few and they're all (IMHO) crazy. Also the methods I tried > downloaded gigantic binary blobs (I mean gigabytes) of unclear provenance. > David Duncan and I tried as well a few times and we haven't had great success with it yet. Our most recent attempt a few months back got the UI up but nothing in it worked. It also wasn't possible to deploy on my laptop to test as I didn't have enough cores and RAM for everything to work. > Koji: > > https://docs.pagure.org/koji/server_howto/ > > David Abdurachmanov has done this (twice I believe) for our RISC-V > system and AIUI it's a bit of an effort to bring up a Koji. But it is > in principle installable on top of Fedora. > Indeed, though theoretically it can be made simpler when you don't use either cert or krb5 authentication. > OBS: > > https://openbuildservice.org/download/ > > There's a prebuilt installer ISO. The sources for it are in RPMs (I > assume also requiring OpenSUSE): > https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OBS:/Server:/2.10/15.6/src/ > Yes, though there has been a slow effort to get OBS on Fedora going too. Oleg Girko has his port of the stable release: https://obs.infoserver.lv/project/show/obs:server:fedora:2.10 And I had previously been working on adapting and upstreaming his work so that it would be fully supported by OBS upstream. I maintain some of the local-build infrastructure for OBS in Fedora, and we use parts of OBS in other places (the signer is used in COPR, for example). -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
