On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 07:27:59AM -0800, Michel Lind wrote: > - how easy is it to bootstrap the different options (Konflux, Koji, OBS etc)? > - how easy is it to run each locally for those who want to dogfood the process or participate in development? I'm not sure it's really necessary to run all the build systems ourselves to evaluate them, but nevertheless ... Konflux: Since this seems to be built on Kubernetes, I can tell you already that's practically very difficult. A "proper" Kubernetes involves having tons of hardware which is way out of range of the hobbyist. There are multiple other ways of installing minimal Kubernetes but I tried a few and they're all (IMHO) crazy. Also the methods I tried downloaded gigantic binary blobs (I mean gigabytes) of unclear provenance. Koji: https://docs.pagure.org/koji/server_howto/ David Abdurachmanov has done this (twice I believe) for our RISC-V system and AIUI it's a bit of an effort to bring up a Koji. But it is in principle installable on top of Fedora. OBS: https://openbuildservice.org/download/ There's a prebuilt installer ISO. The sources for it are in RPMs (I assume also requiring OpenSUSE): https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OBS:/Server:/2.10/15.6/src/ Rich. > > Best regards, > > -- > _o) Michel Lind > _( ) identities: https://keyoxide.org/5dce2e7e9c3b1cffd335c1d78b229d2f7ccc04f2 > README: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Salimma#README > -- > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into KVM guests. http://libguestfs.org/virt-v2v -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue