Re: Konflux: What is the right time?

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On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 07:27:59AM -0800, Michel Lind wrote:
> - how easy is it to bootstrap the different options (Konflux, Koji, OBS etc)?
> - how easy is it to run each locally for those who want to dogfood the process or participate in development?

I'm not sure it's really necessary to run all the build systems
ourselves to evaluate them, but nevertheless ...

Konflux:

Since this seems to be built on Kubernetes, I can tell you already
that's practically very difficult.  A "proper" Kubernetes involves
having tons of hardware which is way out of range of the hobbyist.
There are multiple other ways of installing minimal Kubernetes but I
tried a few and they're all (IMHO) crazy.  Also the methods I tried
downloaded gigantic binary blobs (I mean gigabytes) of unclear provenance.

Koji:

https://docs.pagure.org/koji/server_howto/

David Abdurachmanov has done this (twice I believe) for our RISC-V
system and AIUI it's a bit of an effort to bring up a Koji.  But it is
in principle installable on top of Fedora.

OBS:

https://openbuildservice.org/download/

There's a prebuilt installer ISO.  The sources for it are in RPMs (I
assume also requiring OpenSUSE):
https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OBS:/Server:/2.10/15.6/src/

Rich.

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