Dne 31. 07. 24 v 15:12 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a):
On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 5:54 AM Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Dne 24. 07. 24 v 20:17 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a):On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 1:46 PM Miroslav Suchý <msuchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Dne 24. 07. 24 v 12:30 odp. Joe Orton napsal(a): Having a "majority rule" vote of e.g. packagers or provenpackagers on major technical decisions would be far superior, in my view. Apache communities have worked this way forever. You can always propose this as a change to our process.For what it's worth, I don't believe that this process will work well. I'm all for democracy, but direct democracy without compulsory voting inevitably leads to "grievance-based voting", where the majority of folks ignore the discussion and a plurality of voters with a strong opinion effectively stuff the ballot box. The effect is to have a tyranny of the (loud) minority. The closest we could get to "compulsory voting" would be to require a quorum of votes to be considered binding, but even the FESCo and Council elections traditionally see extremely low voter turnout. I don't think we'd be able to reach a sensible quorum on a referendum-based system.Actually, I think that this could help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_in_Switzerland#Referendums E.g. if we figured there are lets say 20 Fedora contributors who are unhappy with the FESCo voting, all contributors could vote in "referendum" to (dis)approve.That would be exactly what I described above as "grievance-based voting".
You talk about "tyranny of the (loud) minority", but I think the limits are the key. If there needed to be e.g. 20 contributors to raise the concern with the voting, that is hardly minority (considering there was ~200 voters in FESCo elections). But then there is the voting itself, where there would e.g. 200 contributors (and there could also be required minimal quorum) could express their opinion if the FESCo decision was correct/incorrect.
IOW I don't think it would be that easy to find those 20 contributors to even start the voting.
I see it as an insurance. Vít
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