On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 6:18 PM Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > For what it's worth, I don't believe that this process will work well. > I'm all for democracy, but direct democracy without compulsory voting > inevitably leads to "grievance-based voting", where the majority of > folks ignore the discussion and a plurality of voters with a strong > opinion effectively stuff the ballot box. The effect is to have a > tyranny of the (loud) minority. The closest we could get to > "compulsory voting" would be to require a quorum of votes to be > considered binding, but even the FESCo and Council elections > traditionally see extremely low voter turnout. I don't think we'd be > able to reach a sensible quorum on a referendum-based system. This is, indeed, a common problem with even large member based organizations, where certain changes/votes may require a quorum, but most people do not participate/vote. The fix for some such organizations is that you lose your privilege to vote (reducing the number needed for a quorum) if you don't regularly vote, and need to reapply (sometimes with some delays to avoid last minute grievance or vote stuffing based participation). In the end, what we have is a representative democracy, and while it has problems, the public does (eventually) get to correct any perceived lack of perceived responsiveness to the wants of the community if enough people agree change is needed/necessary. Sometimes the "winners" of any election will not agree with your opinions. One can either rail about the unfairness of it all, accept that the majority opinions need to be acknowledged will be followed, or work to convince others that your opinion is better. -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
