On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 03:27:01AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > The big issue with the process is that there is this ground assumption in > Fedora that change is inherently good, and hence any Change should be > approved by default. But IMHO, Fedora used to already be almost perfect, to > the point where changing anything could only possibly make it worse. You are entitled to hold that view, but I would suggest that it is a viewpoint that is contrary to one of the 4 parts of Fedora's mission "We are committed to innovation. ... We recognize that there is also a place for long-term stability in the Linux ecosystem, and that there are a variety of community- oriented and business-oriented Linux distributions available to serve that need. However, the Fedora Project’s goal of advancing free software dictates that the Fedora Project itself pursue a strategy that preserves the forward momentum of our technical, collateral, and community-building progress. Fedora always aims to provide the future, first. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/#_what_is_fedora_all_about With that as part of our mission, it is correct that there is an assumption that change is inherantly good. While FESCO votes do act as a permissions mechanism approving and denying changes, IMHO, the approval result is not really the main purpose of FESCO validation. Rather I'd characterise FESCO as a peer review mechanism, to steer the design of changes to maximise their benefit, resolve problems, and ensure alignment with other project priorties. Sometimes a change may not be possible to steer into an acceptable form and it will get denied, but I'd view that as the uncommon case, and a presumption of acceptance is the goal. Overall, if you want a distro that reaches a so called "perfect" state, and then stands still thereafter, then Fedora is not the distro to satisfy that. Fedora's mission is continual innovation through ongoing change. With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue