On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 11:09:15AM +0100, Luis Correia wrote: > I get that all conversations about AI/ML are controversial (at best) > > But I have just realised that there's even another, and worst, point of > view: > you can say that Fedora Council has already decided on using AI/ML going > forward and only wants to know where implementing priorities will go... > > Hope this isn't the case! We want to genuinely get a picture of the views of our contributor and user communities. The intention certainly isn't to make a "push poll" that gives slanted results. That said, we want it to reflect the real world, not an abstract realm. And: * We already have tools in Fedora that can and will be used for AI/ML (both in general and specifically -- from GPU accelerators to PyTorch). This is part of the "field of use" aspect of free and open source software licensing. * Upstream projects that we package are going to make different decisions than we are. I do not think we can possibly police all upstream software and content to wall off anything where generative AI has been used in some way. * We already DO have Fedora teams experimenting with and using AI/ML; for example, to help evaluate OpenQA test results. (See this talk from Flock last year: https://flock2023.sched.com/event/1Or2N/using-aiml-to-process-automated-test-results-from-openqa) * We _are_ using AI/ML features on Discourse. (With some caution -- only using hosted-by-our-hosting-provider models with open source licenses, like Mixtral.) For example, this provides auto-captioning for images in forum posts, and we're looking at adding translations too. Now, if "we need to shut all of this down" is a widespread view, I certainly would like to hear that. I don't want the poll to exclude any position. But at the same time, I think it's clear that the status quo at this point is "there is some AI in some places". -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue