I get that all conversations about AI/ML are controversial (at best)
But I have just realised that there's even another, and worst, point of view:p.s. I won't be filling the survey as I can't proceed in good conscience and will be happy for a new revision without "positive only" choices
Best,
Luís
On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 at 11:01, Aoife Moloney <amoloney@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
*a terrible time with that question in particular(Sorry, autocorrected and I didn't spot it before hitting send)Aoife Moloney
Fedora Operations Architect--On Tue, Jul 2, 2024, 10:59 AM Aoife Moloney <amoloney@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I guess how the question is phrased 'where do you feel like AI/ML has the best fit in Fedora' assumes the responder will choose where they feel it works best as top choice, and least-best (terrible English :) ) as last, so reviewers of the survey would likely assume 'oh the <something> option scored lowest, that means people really don't see AI/ML as suiting that use case so we shouldn't focus any energy on this option'.Like I said, it really is great feedback because the tone of the question, while deliberately trying to be positive because this is such a controversial topic in and of itself, didn't raise this issue of needing a 'doesn't fit at all' option when the survey questions were reviewed before going live, and that's something we can take forward for the contributors survey too for question structuring.The only reluctance I have on scrapping this survey and changing that question and then relaunching is that I don't want it to be spammy, because I'm sure a lot of folks have already completed the current one and there's still the contributor survey too to be launched, but if folks are having a terrible that with that question I'm particular, then I will and hope you give me another few mins of your day again to fill it back out :)Aoife Moloney
Fedora Operations ArchitectOn Tue, Jul 2, 2024, 10:03 AM Luis Correia <luis.f.correia@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:--On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 at 09:45, Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 4:19 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 08:07:46PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> > DJ & Tom - thank you for that clarification on how to interpret your
> > ranking, and I can assure you and other folks who feel similar about
> > answering that question that that is indeed the way we will be analysing
> > the results - top ranked being best fit, 5th or last ranked being least or
> > worst fit. Also for anyone who has yet to complete the survey, the last
> > question is an optional, free format answer so I would suggest using that
> > to expand on reasons why you ranked certain areas #1, #2 etc for what
> > problems you see AI addressing in those parts of the project.
> >
> > I would also like to add that we deliberately took a positive tone for this
> > survey as it is far too easy to find (many) negatives for AI (and for good
> > reason!), and we wanted to try to look at the benefits we could get from AI
> > instead if applied properly and wit the best interest of Fedora driving the
> > use of AI in parts of the projects ecosystem.
> >
> > This survey is just trying to understand the preferences and wants of the
> > Fedora community when it comes to AI, and not a guarantee that the project
> > will be introducing AI in all of the mentioned areas.
>
> I can't see how this helps understand the Fedora contributor's preferences
> about the use of AI, when the survey is restricting the possible answers
> to "yes", "definitely yes", "very much yes". I would question the validity
> of any actions taken / priorities set in Fedora based on results of this
> survey.
>
Indeed. This creates a skewed dataset because the questions you've
asked essentially prevent a set of responses from being captured. The
two choices people have are: pick the least worst option or just don't
participate in the survey. Neither of which are good things.
Continuing with a small comment:this looks like one of those Human Resources surveys where they only want to know if their performance is:. good. great. outstandingAnd as we know, it's actually none of thoseLuís
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