On Thursday, 20 June 2024 at 19:50, Guinevere Larsen wrote: > On 6/20/24 2:27 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > > Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:52 AM Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Once upon a time, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> said: > > > > > three) and recommend creation of a Fedora "Hardware Life Extension" > > > > > Remix that can provide rebuilds of (a subset of) Fedora that they want > > > > > to run on ancient hardware. > > > > TBH I feel that approach would be doomed to the same failure as the > > > > attempts to extend Fedora life-cycles. There's enough people that would > > > > want it, but not necessarily the critical mass needed to do the work to > > > > make it happen. > > > That's kind of my point. If people want something, but aren't willing > > > to put any effort into it, why do they expect that the rest of the > > > Fedora community will do it for them? > > I think most users would find it easiest to switch to Debian or some > > other distribution. There are probably rather few people with a great > > need to run Fedora and nothing else on their not-quite-high-end > > computers. > > I think most users don't have the technical know-how, or the time to > dedicate to taking care of packages. If they are already stuck with a > not-really-new computer, chances are they are not someone with the > privilege of hours upon hours of free time to handle this stuff. I could pick up a few additional packages to maintain for -v1, but not the whole infrastructure. I just don't have that much time to spare. And for me, it's not that I'm "stuck with" these old machines. I just see no reason to replace them with something newer just because they're old. They still work fine for their intended purpose and the only reason to spend money to replace them so far would be if their mainboards or CPUs died (because they're soldered). I've already replaced their storage, RAM, PSUs and coolers to keep them running at least once. I think such approach is better (both economically and environmentally) compared to throwing them away and buying completely new hardware. Regards, Dominik -- Fedora https://fedoraproject.org Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic. -- from "The Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
