On Tue, 2024-06-04 at 14:26 +0200, Jiri Konecny wrote: > On 04. 06. 24 5:39, Ian Laurie via devel wrote: > > On 6/1/24 1:04 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2024-05-31 at 13:36 +0200, Jiri Konecny wrote: > > > > To my knowledge it shouldn't be. Fedora Workstation is already > > > > running > > > > on Wayland by default for quite some time and even Live ISO is > > > > already > > > > Wayland. To my knowledge Wayland don't have issues with > > > > graphics cards > > > > in general. > > > > > > GNOME has a fallback mechanism where it automatically runs the > > > X.org > > > session if the Wayland session doesn't work. I believe that is > > > active > > > on the live image. Of course, as telemetry is evil, we have > > > absolutely > > > no idea how many Fedora users actually hit this mechanism. > > > > One comment I would make is that VirtualBox doesn't *properly* > > support > > Wayland [yet] requiring GNOME to be run as an Xorg session (of > > course > > not an issue for Xfce etc). > > > > If Anaconda is to be Wayland, my concern is that it may make all > > DEs > > uninstallable, even ones like Xfce far removed from Wayland. > > > You should be able to install from Live ISO which we are not > modifying > (depends on environment set by SIG owners). However, we won't support > X11 together with Wayland on boot.iso. That would be hard to achieve > given to the big amount of changes we are required to do now to > support > Wayland. If you can't support X11 together with Wayland on boot.iso , why you want move to Wayland ? it is stupid break Linux user experience just because Wayland is fancy , what we get with Wayland that we don't get with X11 ? if you need remove X11 to add Wayland, don't do it ! . Don't break the other Linux user systems . Is difficult understand that you should not remove components without agreement of everyone ? Linux should support all kind of hardware, if Wayland don't, you should provide at least fall backs , and not just ignore the others . The removal of X11 from KDE , just because KDE SIG decide without consent of many members of Fedora which contribute to Fedora KDE , should not be acceptable . Waste my energy discussing things that should be obvious , make me think if I still should contribute to this project . Like Linus says "DON'T BREAK THE USER SPACE" Best regards, > Jirka > > -- > > Ian Laurie > > FAS: nixuser | IRC: nixuser > > TZ: Australia/Sydney > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Do not reply to spam, report it: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > -- > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Sérgio M. B. -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue