Re: RPM_* env variables vs macros

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On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 09:31:47AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> 
> Dne 04. 06. 24 v 9:27 Vít Ondruch napsal(a):
> > 
> > Dne 04. 06. 24 v 8:11 Panu Matilainen napsal(a):
> > > On 6/3/24 17:18, Eike Rathke wrote:
> > > > Hi Panu,
> > > > 
> > > > On Monday, 2024-06-03 15:55:09 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > or better yet, ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}.
> > > > 
> > > > Why better?
> > > 
> > > In general, the RPM_* environment variables available to build
> > > scriptlets are what should be used instead of macros. Because,
> > > macros are processed while parsing the spec, which is different from
> > > actually *building* it. For one, using the environment improves srpm
> > > reproducibility because the local gunk like number of CPUs, the
> > > concrete path of %buildroot etc are only visible the scriptlets
> > > where actually used.
> > > 
> > > It's a subtle thing, took me 10+ years with rpm to grok the
> > > recommendation I'd seen long, long, long ago.
> > > 
> > 
> > I wish this nugget was captured somewhere on more prominent place.
> > Because what you say does not really correspond with what we have in
> > guidelines:
> > 
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/#_using_buildroot_and_optflags_vs_rpm_build_root_and_rpm_opt_flags
> > 
> > 
> > And I have not checked the RPM documentation
> 
> 
> There is this section:
> 
> https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/manual/spec.html#build-scriptlets
> 
> also recommending RPM_ macros for scriptlets:

I acknowledge what Panu wrote, but I think there are also countervailing reasons
to prefer the macro:
- it is shorter and generally more consistent with the rest of the spec file,
  which will have many many macros and only occasionally a shell variable,
  so the macro is more aesthetic.
- but the big thing is that the macro is safe wrt. typos, while the variable
  not so much. It's just too easy to make a stupid typo in the variable name
  and do bad things™ in a local build.

  ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT:?} would be a better way to spell the variable reference,
  but that's too long expect people to use it.

So maybe we should have a macro that would expand to the env var:
  %global BUILDROOT ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT:?}
and recommend that people use that instead?

Zbyszek
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