Re: GIMP 3.0 in F41?

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On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 12:38:06PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Mon, May 13, 2024, 12:34 Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 12:14:14PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 13, 2024, 11:50 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <
> > > dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Monday, 13 May 2024 at 01:00, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 4:59 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gimp3
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What the heck? This should have been gimp2 for the old version, not
> > > > > gimp3 for the new version...
> > > >
> > > > Also, how did this pass review?
> > > >
> > > > License:        LGPLv3+
> > > >
> > > > And I'll answer myself: it hasn't or at least I can't find any review
> > > > ticket.
> > > >
> > > > Nils, could you explain how this package ended up in Fedora?
> > >
> > > Standard procedure, everything seems to be in order:
> > >
> > > https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/62152
> > >
> > > The review exception is valid because it's an alternative version of an
> > > existing package, and Nils is also the maintainer of the existing
> > package.
> >
> > It that exception automatic ? I thought it had to be explicitly
> > requested from FPC ? eg in
> >
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Committee#Review_Process_Exemption_Procedure
> >
> > It says:
> >
> >   "The FPC can grant exceptions to the normal package review process.
> >    This may happen, for instance, if a large number of similar packages
> >    are being submitted at once or if a package is being updated to a
> >    new major version while the old version is being kept in the
> >    distribution with a different name.
> >    ..
> >    Just file a ticket here, set the component to "Review Process Exception"
> >    and explain (with detail) why you're requesting the exemption and the
> >    committee will consider it in the next meeting. "
> >
> > So gimp3 falls under the 2nd example documented there, but still sounds
> > like an FPC ticket was needed ?
> >
> 
> The wiki is outdated. All documentation from FPC has been moved to
> docs.fp.o.
> 
> The exceptions are documented here:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/ReviewGuidelines/#_package_review_process

FYI, the wiki isn't the only outdated place then, see also

  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Package_review_policy/#what

  "The Packaging Committee can grant exceptions to the normal
   package review process. This may happen, for instance, if
   a large number of similar packages are being submitted at
   once or if a package is being updated to a new major version
   while the old version is being kept in the distribution with
   a different name. The process for granting exceptions is
   described at Packaging Committee#Review Process Exemption
   Procedure."

the latter being a link to the wiki page with outdated info

> These cases are treated as "automatically approved" and don't need package
> review nor FPC approval.

Ok, does make sense to avoid "bureaucratic rubber stamping" wasting
FPC time in the common case.

With regards,
Daniel
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