Adam Williamson wrote: > I mean, we really don't need to speculate about this much. We did an > entire overhaul of the project - Fedora.next That was for Fedora 21 in 2014! As you stated it, I know you and I have been around forever and 2014 feels like yesterday, but it was really quite a long time ago. ;-) Now we are planning for Fedora 2*21, which would be a good time to revisit this decision. > which was explicitly based around making it much more focused and less of > a choose-your-own-adventure, specifically including making the download > page much more opinionated. Which is exactly what we (KDE users) are complaining about and have been complaining about for those 10 years. And we know many users have complained about it, too. If they even found out Fedora supports KDE/Plasma at all, which not all of them did. The download page now is not as horrible as it was 10 years ago, but the main issue (the featuring of the Editions at the expense of everything else, making the GNOME "Workstation Edition" much more prominent than the other desktop environment options) is by design and thus still present. > AFAIR, the numbers Matthew tracks strongly indicate this was associated > with a very significant immediate bump in Fedora usage. There is no evidence that this was a consequence of the change itself and not of the massive marketing done around it. Media loves announcing when something changes. So if Fedora changes things again to make Editions and Spins equal, and comes up with a fancy codename (like the old "Fedora.next") for that ("Fedora.equality"? "Fedora.flexible"? "Fedora.choice"? "Your Fedora"? Or whatever the marketers can come up with), I expect that we will get lots of media coverage and another bump in downloads from that. Kevin Kofler -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue