Steve Cossette wrote: > Sorry, that's pretty much how things are right now, is that what you were > trying to demonstrate? > > I'm not really following. Not really. The current design is better than those old designs that immediately served you an ISO when you clicked "Download now", but the focus is still on the Editions (which are framed and have logos) at the expense of the Spins and the other options (which have neither frames nor logos). Clicking on Workstation then gives you a selection of architectures, but not of desktop environments; for those, you have to find and pick the (much less prominent) Spins option on the front page instead. I think the first thing to offer users should be the Spins (including the "Workstation Edition" which is technically no different from a Spin). Most users are looking for a desktop distribution. The non-desktop options should come last, after all the desktop-ish (desktop, mobile, lab, and atomic) options. Fedora 21 has introduced the Editions vs. Spins distinction, Fedora 2*21=42 would be a good time to retire it. And selecting a desktop/workstation download should require you to select the desktop environment, with a skip option clearly labeled something like "I do not want to choose" or "Options confuse me" (or "I HATE OPTIONS!" as I had called it somewhat hyperbolically), which happens to be a pretty good description of the GNOME design philosophy. Or maybe even just: (·) GNOME (default) A desktop environment focused on ease of use **Pick this option if questions like this one confuse you.** ( ) KDE Plasma Desktop A highly customizable desktop environment ( ) Xfce A lightweight desktop environment etc. But there should be no link directly to any GNOME Edition/Spin/whatever (except Labs, if that specific Lab exists only as a GNOME-based version) without a clearly visible selection of desktop environments (which is unfortunately what the current "Workstation" link is). (And for Labs, the selection should at least visibly state somewhere what desktop environment they are based on, an information which some Labs now put in their description, requiring an extra click to see it, and some not even there.) Kevin Kofler -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue