On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 12:33 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 16:03 +0100, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: > > We are not banning nor deleting anything. We are not _supporting_ it. > > > you are removing X11 from the builds deliberately , when > many people , members of Fedora on devel mailing list, express that > they want have X11 , in fact we have many people that defend keep X11 . One thing that seems to be overlooked in many of the posts on this thread: Nobody can *force* the KDE Plasma maintainers to do *anything*, just like nobody can force *any* packager to do anything. Fedora a volunteer-run project. We're mostly doing this "for fun" (or at least, some definition of "fun"). So if the KDE Plasma maintainers / the KDE SIG decides that they do not want to keep supporting the Plasma / X11 session, that is their choice. However, I am not sure whether I like it or not that there's an ongoing effort to add this functionality back with separate packages. For me, the only acceptable way to do this would be in a way that does in no way make maintaining the Plasma / Wayland packages more difficult or burdensome, since the original intent of dropping the Plasma / X11 session was to *lower* the maintenance burden. Adding back the Plasma / X11 session with separate packages might cause additional overhead for the KDE SIG (for example, needing to update kwin-x11 whenever there is a kwin update). That would be the "usual" way to handle this according to Fedora policies. However, that would be counter to the original purpose of dropping the functionality from the packages maintained by the KDE SIG. But again, nobody can *force* package maintainers to support something they don't want to support. So in this case, I think it would be good to have something like a clarification to the Updates Policy (and / or other policies, as necessary) for this case to resolve the contradiction - something like "updates for KDE Plasma packages are not required to be coordinated with packages for the Plasma / X11 session". I'm also unsure how handling bug reports would best work in this situation. People *will* report bugs against the wrong components, causing additional work for the KDE SIG. (Hell, I'm getting bug reports filed against elementary / Pantheon packages, and there's not even a usable Pantheon session in Fedora yet!) Fabio -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
