On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 08:38:51AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > 3) Fedora has a long-standing and well-communicated stance that we are > a Wayland distribution first and foremost and that X11 support is > intended as a migration-support tool rather than a first-class > citizen. Does it? This is very much news to me, so I don't think you can call it "well-communicated". We also have an XFCE desktop spin and probably others that require X11. https://fedoraproject.org/uk/spins/xfce/ In addition Wayland doesn't actually replace all the basic functionality of X11 even after all these years, which is why I need to use it. > 4) There was a comment on the FESCo ticket to the effect of '"you must > move to Wayland because no one maintains X11!". Here are some people > who are maintaining X11 packages, so let them do their thing.' This is > misleading, as the move to Wayland is specifically because the > upstream of X11 *itself* is largely unmaintained. These packages are > not maintaining X11, they are adding new dependencies on it. They're maintaining parts of the X11 stack. > My proposal for consideration is this: > "FESCo will allow these packages in the main Fedora repositories, > however they may not be included by default on any release-blocking > deliverable (ISO, image, etc.)" It seems quite strong. I'm unclear why having X11 packages and spins for those that want to use them is a problem. It seems like the missing functionality of Wayland is the bigger issue that needs to be addressed. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-top is 'top' for virtual machines. Tiny program with many powerful monitoring features, net stats, disk stats, logging, etc. http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-top -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
