On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 10:58 PM Kate Hsuan <hpa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Allan, > > Thank you for the comments. > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 12:31 AM Allan Day <aday@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Hi Kate, > > > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 8:30 AM Kate Hsuan <hpa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >... By > > > integrating power-profiles-daemon with tuned, the user can get extra > > > features to finetune the system, and the basic feature provided by ppd > > > can be used according to the user's demand. It also can reduce the > > > efforts of the maintainer. > > ... > > > Moreover, the detailed change proposal can be found here. > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/TunedReplacesPower-profiles-daemon > > > > I just noticed that the change proposal contains the line: > > > > "We expected that the user can set those profile, tuned provided > > through gnome-control-panel. To minimize the information to the user, > > the power panel would provide a simple and advanced mode to show the > > power profiles. If the users want to finetune the system, they can > > switch to the advanced mode themselves." > > > > It's a bit unclear if this is a definite plan, a requirement, or more > > of a speculative ambition. However, I should probably be clear that > > from a GNOME design perspective, an advanced power profile settings > > mode would likely be a tough sell. Exposing arbitrary user-defined > > profiles would also pose some challenges which it might be difficult > > to overcome. > > > - Simple (Basic) mode is the original UX design of the power panel so > we don't need to change or redesign it. > - The advanced mode only shows the profile that tuned provides and the > profile can be filtered based on the system architecture or platform > model (Dell, Lenovo...etc). It is my thought and any kinds of ideas > are welcome. > > Since there are many kinds of profiles provided by tuned, for example, > VM-specific profiles and profiles for Intel features...etc., that > gives us more room to think about how the UI can be improved. In this > proposal, I listed the probabilities of UX changes to show how we can > propose a new UX for the power panel. If it is difficult to achieve, > the advanced mode can be dropped, and seek for alternative solutions. > :) > For the short-term plan, we would like to address the integration with > tuned. The best result of the first step is that power-profiles-daemon > is replaced by tuned and all the applications, such as gnome, kde, > sysprof...etc run correctly. Then, we will start to think about how > the UX can be improved or an alternative solution to set up the > advanced tuned profiles. > > > If this change proposal does require UXD changes to GNOME, then I'd > > suggest reaching out to us in advance to discuss them. > Okay. :) > I strongly recommend you reach out to the KDE folks as well. The Visual Design Group is a good starting point[1] for discussing the UX for tuned in KDE Plasma. A Matrix account is required to interact with most of the KDE folks, but you should already have one through chat.fedoraproject.org if you don't already have one from elsewhere. I suspect many of your simple/advanced UX ideas will be fine, but need to be refined with the VDG to figure out how it should be done. >From the KDE side, we are not strictly speaking, married to the power-profiles-daemon concept. And the idea of having IHVs actually provide useful energy tuning profiles so that battery life can be further extended (thus supplanting tlp as well) is highly appealing. [1]: https://matrix.to/#/#visualdesigngroup:kde.org -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
