Re: Request for comment- tuned replacing power-profiles-daemon plan

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Hi Allan,

Thank you for the comments.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 12:31 AM Allan Day <aday@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Kate,
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 8:30 AM Kate Hsuan <hpa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >... By
> > integrating power-profiles-daemon with tuned, the user can get extra
> > features to finetune the system, and the basic feature provided by ppd
> > can be used according to the user's demand. It also can reduce the
> > efforts of the maintainer.
> ...
> > Moreover, the detailed change proposal can be found here.
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/TunedReplacesPower-profiles-daemon
>
> I just noticed that the change proposal contains the line:
>
> "We expected that the user can set those profile, tuned provided
> through gnome-control-panel. To minimize the information to the user,
> the power panel would provide a simple and advanced mode to show the
> power profiles. If the users want to finetune the system, they can
> switch to the advanced mode themselves."
>
> It's a bit unclear if this is a definite plan, a requirement, or more
> of a speculative ambition. However, I should probably be clear that
> from a GNOME design perspective, an advanced power profile settings
> mode would likely be a tough sell. Exposing arbitrary user-defined
> profiles would also pose some challenges which it might be difficult
> to overcome.
>
- Simple (Basic) mode is the original UX design of the power panel so
we don't need to change or redesign it.
- The advanced mode only shows the profile that tuned provides and the
profile can be filtered based on the system architecture or platform
model (Dell, Lenovo...etc). It is my thought and any kinds of ideas
are welcome.

Since there are many kinds of profiles provided by tuned, for example,
VM-specific profiles and profiles for Intel features...etc., that
gives us more room to think about how the UI can be improved. In this
proposal, I listed the probabilities of UX changes to show how we can
propose a new UX for the power panel. If it is difficult to achieve,
the advanced mode can be dropped, and seek for alternative solutions.
:)
For the short-term plan, we would like to address the integration with
tuned. The best result of the first step is that power-profiles-daemon
is replaced by tuned and all the applications, such as gnome, kde,
sysprof...etc run correctly. Then, we will start to think about how
the UX can be improved or an alternative solution to set up the
advanced tuned profiles.

> If this change proposal does require UXD changes to GNOME, then I'd
> suggest reaching out to us in advance to discuss them.
 Okay. :)

>
> Thanks,
>
> Allan
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-- 
BR,
Kate
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