On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 3:27 AM Kevin Kofler via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Adam Williamson wrote: > > IIRC it was a condition of that proposal that we wind up on a hosted > > version of the *open source* release of gitlab > > "hosted version" and "open source" is already a contradiction by itself. > https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/network-services-arent-free-or-nonfree.html > > The Fedora Project's increasing reliance on third-party SaaS is a problem, > not a solution. Even if the server software happens to be FOSS, that is of > no help if you do not control the server and hence cannot control what > version is deployed. As (I think it was Ben who reminded us), the Fedora Council adopted (in 2018) the following statement: "The Fedora Project wants to advance free and open source software and as a pragmatic matter we recognize that some infrastructure needs may be best served by using closed source or non-free tools today. Therefore the Council is willing to accept closed source or non-free tools in Fedora’s infrastructure where free and open source tools are not viable or not available." If you don't agree with that decision, run for the council, or vote for representatives on the council who agree with your point of view and will work to rescind that statement. Until that happens, the statement stands as adopted. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue