On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:26 PM Simon de Vlieger <cmdr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 6/28/23 21:12, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > The current Workstation live has the package exclusions from fedora- > > workstation-common.ks in it: > > > > https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/main/f/fedora-workstation-common.ks > > > > so it excludes three groups that are part of the 'standard' for live > > images but which Workstation doesn't want to include, and it excludes > > two packages that usually get pulled in as part of the installer > > environment. The reiserfs-utils exclusion could actually be dropped as > > we dropped reiserfs-utils from comps long ago, but the gfs2-utils > > exclusion is still 'active'. > > Thanks, yes I saw this when I ran ksflatten on it to come up with the > package set that was needed for the live installer that can be built by > osbuild-composer at this moment. > > > There is a bit of "defining base Fedora" - that's what fedora-live- > > base.ks does - but there is other stuff too. One very prevalent pattern > > is that we share a lot of stuff between live image and disk image > > definitions. So for e.g. for Workstation, we have these chains: > > > > fedora-live-workstation.ks inherits from fedora-live-base.ks and > > fedora-workstation-common.ks > > fedora-disk-workstation.ks inherits from fedora-disk-base.ks, fedora- > > disk-xbase.ks and fedora-workstation-common.ks > > > > so things that are 'basic' to each particular type of image are shared, > > but also things that are 'basic' to each edition or spin are shared, so > > we're not doing them twice between the lives and the disk images. > > > > Then we have things like labs/spins that are based on desktop > > spins/editions, but extend them. For e.g., the Design Suite lab is > > based on Workstation, so it inherits from fedora-live-workstation.ks . > > Astronomy_KDE and Scientific_KDE, obviously, inherit from the KDE > > kickstarts. > > > > There's also a 'minimization' pattern where several kickstarts inherit > > from fedora-live-minimization.ks , which does/did some shared > > minimization stuff. I kinda disliked that pattern and I've managed to > > pare that file down to just `-hplip` now, but that's still there as I > > haven't managed to shift it. > > > > So, there's a lot going on with the inheritance stuff. :D It definitely > > needs to be evaluated at least. You can just do `grep include *.ks` in > > the fedora-kickstarts repo to get a feel for everything. > > Thanks for that write up, I'm going to go spelunking in this repository > and come up with a plan on how to support an approach like this to > define editions/spins in blueprints so there's no wall in front of us > for future building of those images as well. > > I can see it hopefully becoming *easier* to define spins, editions, and > remixes of Fedora in the future. > Comparatively, the Fedora Asahi Remix is defined using KIWI descriptions using composition and inheritance of profiles and config snippets. Top level file: https://pagure.io/fedora-asahi/kiwi-descriptions/blob/rawhide/f/config.xml Desktop environment fragment: https://pagure.io/fedora-asahi/kiwi-descriptions/blob/rawhide/f/components/desktop-environments.xml Common packages: https://pagure.io/fedora-asahi/kiwi-descriptions/blob/rawhide/f/components/base.xml Boot packages: https://pagure.io/fedora-asahi/kiwi-descriptions/blob/rawhide/f/components/boot.xml Workstation platform: https://pagure.io/fedora-asahi/kiwi-descriptions/blob/rawhide/f/platforms/workstation.xml I would say personally that not being able to do this is a blocker for adopting osbuild-composer blueprints. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
