On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:01 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote: > I already answered you here: > https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709 > > TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For > now, the blueprint will be empty/minimal. Thanks a lot for engaging with the feedback. However, I'm not convinced by that answer, and I would prefer to follow up here; I suspect feedback to an issue in the workstation tracker might well not be captured in the Change process. I think the points discussed in the ticket (layering/inheritance, and package removals) are critical and they need an answer to be figured out *before* we start switching Fedora live images to be built with a different tool. I don't see how it can be good for Fedora if we have *some* live images built with livemedia-creator and *some* live images built with Image Builder - but if we start converting images without figuring out what to do about layering and package exclusions, that's exactly what we risk. We do really kinda need inheritance to maintain the live image definitions sensibly. (Also, a related point Neal didn't mention: we share some elements of configuration between the live images and the aarch64 disk images, since both are defined by kickstarts in the fedora-kickstarts repo.) And we really need package exclusions to keep some images to a sensible size. We don't necessarily need these things to be completely implemented in order to switch Workstation over, I don't think, but I think we should at least have a *plan* for them. And ideally a timeframe. -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue