Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

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On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:01 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote:
> I already answered you here:
> https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709
> 
> TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For
> now, the blueprint will be empty/minimal.

Thanks a lot for engaging with the feedback. However, I'm not convinced
by that answer, and I would prefer to follow up here; I suspect
feedback to an issue in the workstation tracker might well not be
captured in the Change process.

I think the points discussed in the ticket (layering/inheritance, and
package removals) are critical and they need an answer to be figured
out *before* we start switching Fedora live images to be built with a
different tool. I don't see how it can be good for Fedora if we have
*some* live images built with livemedia-creator and *some* live images
built with Image Builder - but if we start converting images without
figuring out what to do about layering and package exclusions, that's
exactly what we risk.

We do really kinda need inheritance to maintain the live image
definitions sensibly. (Also, a related point Neal didn't mention: we
share some elements of configuration between the live images and the
aarch64 disk images, since both are defined by kickstarts in the
fedora-kickstarts repo.) And we really need package exclusions to keep
some images to a sensible size.

We don't necessarily need these things to be completely implemented in
order to switch Workstation over, I don't think, but I think we should
at least have a *plan* for them. And ideally a timeframe.
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