Hey Owen, On Wed, 2023-05-24 at 13:50 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > What if we made the Toolbox container image just one more base image > and built it with ImageFactory? > > - Integrated into the compose process > - Across all architectures > - No OSBS dependency > > The main disadvantage is that it is no longer layered, so *if* you > happen to have the exact same Fedora image version around for some > other reason (a big if), you save a fraction of space: > > Fedora 38 container - 71M compressed, 201M uncompressed > Toolbox add-on layer - 232M compressed, 753M uncompressed > Toolbox squashed - 291M compressed, 884M uncompressed I am not too attached to the bandwidth or space savings due to the fedora-toolbox image being a layered image. [ In future, I would like to explore if we can ship the fedora-toolbox image as part of the Silverblue and Workstation ISOs, to avoid the need for a sizable download just to set up the default Toolbx. That could unlock things like defaulting to a Toolbx shell or generally help promoting Toolbx as a primary interactive CLI environment. Anyway, that's a big 'if'. ] My main concern, which I had brought up in the Release Engineering tickets before [1,2] is whether the fedora-toolbox images would continue to be defined as a Docker/Containerfile. I am asking because the fedora base images are defined as kickstart files [3]. There's some value in continuing to use a Docker/Containerfile because it's widely known and leads to a common workflow. It is used for the official Toolbx images for other distributions like Arch Linux, RHEL and Ubuntu, and a growing list of third-party Toolbx images [4]. A Docker/Containerfile is easy to use with 'podman build' as part of the upstream CI, which makes it easier to test all the different parts. Currently the Fedora and RHEL images that are shipped to users aren't built straight from the upstream Git repository, but from the separate copies on Fedora and Red Hat dist-git. Even then, it's a lot easier to manage two copies of the sources in the same format, as opposed to one using Docker/Containerfiles and the other something else like kickstart files. Cheers, Rishi [1] https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11399#comment-853047 Attached to this Change proposal [2] https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11189#comment-840689 Past discussion that led to this Change [3] https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts [4] https://github.com/toolbx-images/images _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
